Re[2]: Most dangerous braking situation...

[jmbrodsky@domain.elided]

     I've noticed that owning different vehicles, (I was up to 12 last 
     week, now only 9)  teaches one that the instinct has do to with 
     what machine you're using. I used to have a '64 MGB when I was 
     working as a mechanic in High School.  That car was great, and 
     there was a specific method to get the shifter into reverse.  The 
     trannies were particularly difficult to get into reverse due to 
     the stregnth of the detent gate.  You basically had to get into 
     neutral and 'slap' the shifter towards you, and back to get 
     reverse.  Well, fast forward about 6 years later from getting rid 
     of the MGB.  My bud and I go to look at one, he's thinking of 
     buying.  I get in, sit down, look around, grab the shifter, and 
     go through the pattern.   1, 2, 3, 4, and wham right into 
     reverse, like I drove it yesterday.  It just happens.  When I 
     change motorcycles, from street to dirt, the same thing applies.  
     I just somehow remember to stand down with my LEFT foot on the 
     dirtbike to use the kick starter.  My street bikes are the right 
     foot.
     
        It just works.  Talk to pilots.  They don't end up trying to 
     use rudder pedals in the car do they?  John L, do you end up 
     doing this?  I certainly don't confuse the controls of Dad's C140 
     with the clutch/brke/throttle.
     
        The old saying I used to hear from the Air Force Pilots I used 
     to meet and work with:  "If you have to think...You're dead."  
     Tom, you're right, it has to be instinctive.  like knowing how to 
     fall.
     
        As luck would have it, with all the unfortunate inastances 
     I've had, I broke one bone in my hand and one bone in my foot, on 
     separate occasions, but both on BICYCLES, doing stupid stuff.  
     When I rolled my Scout, I never even cut or gotten soil on my 
     white button down dress shirt!  No blood.
     
        If you're upside down, shut the motor off, FIRST!
     
     -Joel


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Subject: Re: Most dangerous braking situation...
Author:  tsm1@domain.elided at mime
Date:    1/6/99 12:06 PM


John Hofstetter wrote:
     
> I agree on the pulsing braking, and that's my argument in support of ABS
> brakes. In a panic stop, most of us, even though who think we wouldn't, are 
> all to likely to stomp down as hard as we can stomp, and ABS brakes makes
> that panic stomp not quite so potentially disastrous. I know that the ABS 
> question engenders real debate, but in the aspect that Joel is talking
> about, I can't see how they aren't really helpful.
     
My biggest problem.. is.. you have one car with ABS, one without... like 
John Hofstetter.. the GC has ABS, the Terra doesn't... so how do you 
train yourself?  Stomp and hold?  Pulse?  One works with ABS, one works 
w/o out.. and the opposite does NOT work.. pumping ABS is bad, and not 
pumping regular is bad..
     
If you have to think, it's not instinctive.  If you have to decide which 
is better, you have to think.


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